Fighting climate doubt, one podcast at a time

When conversations with skeptics stall, two climate-savvy comedians offer a fresh—and funny—way in - story 76

This was very good.

I am researching an upcoming series prompted by a recurring experience. I keep meeting climate change skeptics and struggle to answer their challenges meaningfully. The details vary, but the pattern is familiar. A question about carbon offsets. A deflection about China. A vague allusion to “natural cycles.” Too often, I find myself fumbling—not for facts, but for a tone that doesn’t shut the conversation down before it starts.

I came across this recommendation, the Climate Denier’s Playbook. This episode caught my eye for one reason: it tackled the ‘but what about China?’ argument head-on. In every conversation I’ve had with deniers, this deflection surfaces eventually. The podcast offered more than a rebuttal—it offered an approach.

I was richly rewarded. Make no mistake: the show is unapologetically American. The cultural references, the tone, even the show notes are steeped in a kind of millennial Brooklyn vibe. But it works. Because Williams and Conlan are not just scientifically literate—they’re disarmingly funny. Read the show notes.

Rollie Williams (Climate Town) and Nicole Conlan (The Daily Show) are two comedians with Master's Degrees in Climate Science & Policy and Urban Planning.

But don’t get too excited, because they’re here to examine the pervasive myths and misinformation campaigns that are making it obnoxiously difficult to address the looming climate crisis you've probably heard about.

If you're looking to get your hands on some of the absolute coldest, hardest, climate changing-est facts to help sift through the noise, then you've come to the right place, brother.

Shout out to Nicole Conlan who is exceptional. Your reward if you listen to the end is a role-play that brings to life the ideas raised in the podcast.

I have subscribed the Playbook and will listen to more. Don’t be surprised to find some of these rebuttals appearing on this blog.